RBS statement on technical issue
26th June 2012
RBS and NatWest confirm that the update of customer account balances has cleared overnight, with the exception of a few specific sets of transactions.
We know this disruption was unacceptable and that many customers will still have questions and concerns. It is possible a small number of customers may experience delays as we return to a completely normal service. We will continue to extend our branch opening hours all week.
The full focus of our efforts will now be on delivering the same result for our Ulster Bank customers who continue to experience unacceptable delays to their accounts being updated. We are confident that this will help us restore a full service for the start of next week for Ulster Bank and remain grateful for our customers' patience. We will continue with extended opening hours for the remainder of this week and with the extensive customer support we have in place to mitigate the impact of this delay.
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We are deeply sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues. Please contact your bank directly and they will be able to discuss your personal situation.
For more information on how we are putting this right and reimbursing our customers, please visit the appropriate help point for your bank:
- RBS: http://www.rbs.co.uk/personal/help-and-support.ashx
- NatWest: http://www.natwest.com/personal/help-and-support.ashx
- Ulster Bank NI: http://www.ulsterbank.co.uk/ni/personal/service-update/customer-update.ashx
- Ulster Bank RoI: http://www.ulsterbank.ie/roi/personal/service-update/customer-update.ashx
More information is available on RBS http://www.rbs.co.uk/personal/help-and-support.ashx or NatWest http://www.natwest.com/personal/help-and-support.ashx.
We are deeply sorry for the disruption experienced by our customers during the systems delays.
Yet, if I ask for list of recent transactions, I CAN see May, June and early July items.
So, there is obviously STILL a problem with the RBS statement software.
Now I'm wondering when are we going to get pay? and why this delay when everything supposed to be fixed
For no apparent reason !
Sunday without cash and the store is closed.
As A journalist by sheer coincidence writing a massive story about bank corruption this is very strange.
RBS I want my card back NOW
My salary is expected to be credited this Friday. Hope this will be fixed by then.
So far my wages have not been credited (due Friday 22nd) and 9 DD's have failed!!!
It would be nice if there was someone to speak to instead of an instant busy tone or a recorded message saying that there is a large volume of calls and cutting me off.
When i do finally get my money it will be going elsewhere.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST A PETITION OR SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO DO THE SAME THEY MIGHT GET THE IDEA THAT CUSTOMER ARE MIFFED AND START ANSWERING THERE PHONE.
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I HIGHLY DOUBT IT
It has become a very bad time for uk customers now the banks can loss money hold our money we earn with out any punisment or compansation for there poor handling of affairs.With the olympics around the corner what must this country look like to rest of the world .
I want to close my account TODAY!
Both accounts have been accessible, both have full transactional functionality and I've been able to get through to the helplines in only slightly longer than average timetables.
Obviously the problems are not affecting everyone, but I feel for people who can't access their account for food and living expenses.
You could rest assured tht if your balance was double what you have stated you would have got through the lines a darn site quicker.
I had a small issue with a payment over the weekend but one quick call to customer care in Scotland and this was dealt with and my account credited.
RBS have been brilliant in sorting this out for me and I think the staff should be given a 'thank you' for working overtime and unsociable hours to resolve the problem.
Everyone make mistakes and RBS have admitted there error and promised to put everyone back to their equivalent position financially.
So, let's focus on resolving the issues in a constructive manner.
many thanks
Money was credited to my account Friday & Tuesday but now Wednesday the 27th June it has taken six days for RBS to do nothing with my account. I continue to receive text messages from Think Banking stating that "we're very sorry" "difficult time for us all". I'm struggling to see how this could be a difficult time for the fat cats at RBS, will you only get a 7million pound bonus this year as opposed to you 8million?.
None the less I have called both the standard number and the new number that has been set up to take calls. The new number I have managed to get through to, having got through I was made to listen to a pre recorded message then hung up on.
Even though money is being held for bills, they are not getting paid and TV licensing are now on the third day of waiting for my payment. My car insurance if missed will void my policy and cost me who knows what extra on my next premium.
I am disgusted by the level of service I am receiving as a result of what il admit is a technical issue and we all suffer from them but 6 days of no service, little information and no chance of speaking to a human. when your on your last bit of baby milk and missing job interviews further deepening my problems and concerns. My confidence in the bank is at an all time low. Do they care that I have children to feed, have the money to do so, but can't? Or is everyone far too busy playing the stock market with our funds?.
- think banking customers don't be fooled: there are other accounts that provide the exact same service, direct debits and all.
I will be filing for any losses as a result of this and making the switch to another account.
Should of known RBS couldn't be trusted when the government had to bail them out.
As I have over 200 Customers who might have paid me last week, I cant be sure which ones these represent.
Furthermore I now have a Direct Debit for over 220 with the same description RBS TRANS 220612 even though it was raised on 25th June. I dont know who has raised the Direct Debit, nor what for Ive never had a D/D for this amount before.
I presume some programmer somewhere has simply decided to apply a generic description when theyve lost the original description.
As 4 new transactions appeared overnight (Wed am) I'm presuming that whatever you've done is still in place overwriting transaction descriptions.
Don't just 'fix it' - I need those descriptions recovered else I can't reconcile my Ledgers & satisfy my Auditors.
We pay money each month for our account to run smoothly, well i shall be changing thats for sure.
I am missing payment on bills, which is going to look bad on my creit score, and all i keep getting is a text message each morning saying sorry thats its not fixed yet, but they are trying.
I am having to borrow money to put fuel im my car to get to work. Not great. I have a message from them saying it was going to be sorted on the 26th, well that has past.
Lost all confidence now!!!
The new telephone number is continually engaged.
The news reports this morning that 99% of credits are now on accounts - mine is'nt, is this just spin again.!!
EXTRA STAFE ON TO HANDLE THE CALLS ON 03304407100, ONE CALL
ONE ASWER,NO ONE ELSE IS ABLE TO GET TO THAT NUMBER, I AM
THINKING THAT IT IS OFF THE HOOK...DO THE RIGHT THING FOR
ONCE AND BE TRUTHFULL...VERY VERY UNHAPPY CUSTOMER.
likely to be caused by the technical problems over the past few days?
I've called numbers that you've gave and all I get is pre recorded message then it hangs up.
NOT IMPRESSED.
still not updayed
I phoned Think Banking up a few days before I was due to get paid to ask if there was going to be a problem as I had planned a trip away today for my girlfriend birthday and wanted to be sure I'd have sufficient funds to pay for it on the day.
I was informed not to worry and the backlog has been resolved and that my payment would be okay. Different story this morning I've had to cancel the trip leaving both me any my girlfriend feeling gutted.
I Tried to call Think Banking to see if they could help but was impossible to get through the lines were constantly engaged and there is no other means to contact them.
Very disappointed with Think Banking and even more so RBS and I fear the worse is to come with people chasing me for payments.
I have no petrol left in the car and no money, yes I agree that I shouldn't live on the breadline but in today's economic climate it's difficult to make ends meat and a cash flow is not so easy to come by.
I've worked hard this year and been stripped from a treat away and supplied with added stress by some utterly appalling banking sector incompetency, it's easy to say sorry for the inconvenience caused but that's not good enough!.
What makes it worse is when I log on to my internet banking I'm presented with a smiley face status saying my account is in good working order, patronising to say the least.
Still waiting....
I am with RBS and my money is still missing. Could RBS please deliver to its own customers before "moving focus".
Ulster Bank customers.... you do NOT want the "same result" as RBS customers.
Would you please stop referring to this as an 'inconvenience'. It was inconvenient last week. I think it's gone a bit beyond that now.
My employees are complaining to me because they have not been paid. I pay their salaries through Bankline. I have had to give handouts from the petty cash so that they can buy their groceries and petrol. Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for people having to ask for a handout?
It's certainly beyond being 'inconvenience'.
I am with RBS and my money is still missing. Could RBS please deliver to its own customers before "moving focus".
Ulster Bank customers.... you do NOT want the "same result" as RBS customers.
Time for us all to close our accounts with RBS as i intend to do.
The above statement should read "everyone who should have been paid now has an negative balance in their account with RBS and we have lost their wages/ payins/ credits/ Benefit Payments/ Pensions."
I was paid last Friday. My money was stolen last Saturday by RBS software. RBS now tell me that it is a "display issue" and one phone banker told me tonight that my "money was there, its just that you are unable to see it". I am unable to withdraw it and unable to use any cards. Apparently it is something to do with my eyesight, like an optical illusion.
I have been unable to access my money since Saturday.
I have spent 8 hours on various telephone queues since Saturday to NO AVAIL.
I have driven miles to an RBS local branch only to be told "There is nothing we can do".
I cannot go to a shop.
I cannot go to a garage.
I cannot buy online.
My money is not there.
RBS are liars.
totally disgusted with the way this has been handled. Heads should roll for this but we all know they won't
I am not happy this must be sorted NOW.
Ironically I was about to open an account in a different bank on Saturday, but no money to do it with now!
debited from my account but no credits .... and according to news
reports 99% of accounts are now updated I don't think that these figures are correct .
debited from my account but no credits .... and according to news
reports 99% of accounts are now updated I don't think that these figures are correct .
And they claim nearly everything is back to normal!!
Absolutely diabolical service!! Doubt they'll reply to this either!!
My holidays was totally destroyed . What You want me to do without any money? Is Tuesday already, nothing is been fixed yet, after 5 days.
My holidays was totally destroyed
Can you be more specific? How many account are still not cleared? How many have been cleared? My funds have still not been cleared. The money was there on Friday and was then taken out. I am oversees at the moment and do not have the luxury of popping by to get cash at a local branch.
Tired of all the lies and fully expect to be blitzed with bank charges. RBS you no longer have any credibility with customers.
I feel very sorry for everyone who banks with Think Banking... and Think Banking themselves as it's completely out of their control.
Hope it gets sorted soon!
Jason.
My salary should have been credited on Saturday, still nothing!! Called customer services and was told if I went into bank with my salary wage slip, proof of id and my bank card they would manually credit my salary into my account (needed to pay mortgage, etc). Sacrificed my lunch and more to go into RBS to be told "no, we cannot do this" does anybody know what is happening at RBS. I assume all RBS staff for who it is compulsary to bank with them have had no issues. Treating Customers Fairly?? I don't think so. As soon as my account is corrected I will be withdrawing all my money and goinfg elsewhere. I hope people do the same and vote with their feet!!
I have a disabled son wwho was meant to have sports day today but due to me having no fuel money i couldnt get there, then due to stress of mummy not being there HE HAD A SEIZURE, so thank u for hanging calls up all day today to get emergency funds as this has now resulted to my son having seizue and stitches to his head, HOPE YOUR ALL HAPPY WITH YOURSELFS, i am walking to bank now which is over 9 miles away and will be sitting in branch till i have all my cash back
we are a family of 7 (including 4 children 5 - 4 months)You have MY money from Child benefit from Saturday and my salary payment today - What do you honestly think we are living on ?? My husband rang everyday and you LIED telling us since Friday PM that the situation has resolved then texting 5 minutes later saying it hasn't. He rang yesterday and you agreed to "ADVANCE" us 50 - hello, it's my money , your not giving us anything here. Just to add insult to injury, you made him tell you what he was going to use it for !! what do you think we were going to use it for ? let me tell you how far 50 goes - NO WHERE a box of nappies costs 20 and a tin of baby milk costs 8. You can probably work out that we haven't been out for a jolly o the change !! We haven't even paid the 5 year old's dinner money yet - how humiliating do you think that is ?? I'm sure you won't bother to read this or bother to respond, but at least I had my say. I don't know how the senior management at RBS sleep at night ? But I'm sure it's better than I am !!!
It's possible that some customers may experience delays as we return to a normal service. We apologise for this unacceptable inconvenience.
If you have an urgent financial need to access your funds please let us know. You can call us on 0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639.
Perhaps if someone could advise specifically what sets of transactions still need to be sorted people would be a little clearer about what exactly is going on here.
All we keep hearing is;
"Account balances should now be updated for most of our customers. Future payments such as salaries should also be processed as expected.
It's possible that some customers may experience delays as we return to a normal service. We apologise for this unacceptable inconvenience.
If you have an urgent financial need to access your funds please let us know. You can call us on 0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639"
Tell us what is REALLY happening!!! Do not insult us further by continuing to give us this standard issue response!!! IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
My wages have vanished from my account this morning to cover an amount that your computer system had said i was overdrawn, i did mange to get to a branch last saturday and the girl gave me 120 that should have been in my account, you have now taken that off my wages. Sort this mess out or i will be closing my account
It's possible that some customers may experience delays as we return to a normal service. We apologise for this unacceptable inconvenience.
If you have an urgent financial need to access your funds please let us know.
If you have an urgent enquiry you can call us on 0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639.
Not acceptable and i wont be keeping my account with you, and any charges you feel like giving me, you can put them somewhere else.
It's possible that some customers may experience delays as we return to a normal service. We apologise for this unacceptable inconvenience.
If you have an urgent financial need to access your funds please let us know. You can call us on :
0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639.
The I.T. department should be open 24 hours in RBS and Think Banking until this is fully resolved. Disgarceful
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/26/rbs_natwest_ca_technologies_outsourcing/
I will be changing banks asap! I do not have enough words to express my anger and dissapointment!
Well continue to extend branch opening hours all week.
If you have an urgent enquiry, please call us on:
0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639.
It's possible that some customers may experience delays as we return to a normal service. We apologise for this unacceptable inconvenience.
If you have an urgent financial need to access your funds please let us know. You can call us on:
0161 931 9959 or 08457 77 77 66 or 0800 656 9639.
Lying, lying, lying.
We are working closely with the Think Banking team to ensure they are able to help any customers still facing difficulty as a result of our technical error. These customers need to contact Think Banking in the first instance to authorise cash withdrawals via our branches in the normal way, however we can assure these customers that we are focussed on getting them the help they need.
I wouldnt mind betting it could be up to 2 weeks before the backlog is sorted ...
Update of account balances has cleared overnight, with the exception of a few specific sets of transactions. It is possible a small number of customers may experience delays as we return to a completely normal service.
We've arranged for our customers to be advanced cash in our branches when they were missing payments & had no available funds.
I am an RBS customer and STILL cannot access my cash. A payment which was credited on Friday has mysteriously vanished leaving us overdrawn and with no money.
Great, Thanks. Do you have any idea of how insulting this is?
To me, as a 30 year customer or Ulster Bank, it says very clearly that RBS views the Irish as second class citizens, Ulster as a second class bank and me as a second class customer.
Message received. Over and OUT.
Also, as you say, they haven't been answering their phone today, probably cant take the abuse they are getting from irate customers wanting their money. How they expect people to survive on no money, I do not know!!
We are working closely with the Think Banking team to ensure they are able to help any customers still facing difficulty as a result of our technical error. These customers need to contact Think Banking in the first instance to authorise cash withdrawals via our branches in the normal way, however we can assure these customers that we are focussed on getting them the help they need.
wheres my money then?
When can I expect my salary to be credited, I am still unable to access my money.
While updates to most account balances have cleared, we apologise to those customers still experiencing problems. We are working to fix these.
Well continue to extend branch opening hours all week.
We will ensure that no customers will be left out of pocket as a result of these issues. We can confirm that any fees and charges incurred by customers will be fully refunded. This includes charges levied by a third party; for example, if you were late paying a non-RBS credit card or mortgage because your account wrongly showed there wasn't sufficient cash.
In addition your text messages offer access to emergency funds can Natwest branches facilitate this?
For those who don't know, although Think Banking is not part of the RBS Group, the accounts are held with RBS, and use the RBS back office system, statements carry the RBS logo, so we've been just as badly affected, and we don't even bank directly with RBS!




